Name as Joseph Hobbs, married Sarah Pepper on 25 feb 1837 in Marylebone, and he died 7 mar 1838 at age 62 by Amanda Lillie of Surrey UK
I.G.I has Sarah Pepper birth 27 Feb 1814. Bapt 18 March 1814 ST. George The Martyr, Southwark.
Parents William & Esther Pepper.Extract from The Will of Susannah Penley 1835. "And also to Sarah Pepper, Niece of my said husband and now residing with me, the like legacy or sum of five hundred pounds sterling."
Hobbs family bible in possession of Amanda Lillie of Surrey, UK, "Sarah Pepper - niece of William Penley, Esq, of Connaught Terrace, Hyde Park" Separately she states that Sarah died 1864 and that she and William Newton had 7 children, not all of whom survived into adulthood
Identified as Joseph Hobbs, born 24 oct 1837, son of Joseph Hobbs and Sarah Pepper, by great grandaughter, Amanda Lillie of Surrey, UK
Name as John Jones, marrying Mary Penley on 18 feb 1787 in Rotherhithe, London. witnesses are Sampson Penley and Diana Sims.
Name as Mary Penley, marrying John Jones on 18 feb 1787 in Rotherhithe, London. witnesses are Sampson Penley and Diana Sims. If this Samson is her father, he is likely son in turn of the other Sampson Penley
England Births and Christenings, 1528, 1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Thomas Pendley, christened 14 apr 1633 in Saint Vigor, Fulbourn, Cambridge, England. Son of Thomas Pendley
Will dated 9 apr 1683 in All Saints Parish, Fulborne, Cambridge, England as Thomas Penley , sick in body but of sound mind. Lists 3 children, all under 21 yrs
Listed as wife, Elsa Penley, as sole executrix in will of husband, Thomas Penley in Apr 1683 in Foulborne, Cambridge, England
Identified as Alice, as mother, in christening record of William Penly
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Thomas Penly, christened 5 sep 1669 in Saint Vigour, Fulbourn, Cambridge, England. Son of Thomas Penly and Elisabeth
Listed as Thomas Penley, age less than 21, as son in will of father, Thomas Penley in Fulborne, Cambridge, England in Apr 1683
ngland Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as William Penly, christened 8 feb 1672 in Saint Vigor, Fulbourn, Cambridge, England. Son of Thomas Penley and Alice
Listed as William Penley, age less than 21, as son in will of father, Thomas Penley in Fulborne, Cambridge, England in Apr 1683
Latin Will from Archdeaconry of Ely ,Probate Wills, for William Pendley of Foulbourne Parrish. Will dated 5 Aug 1724. copy made by Taylor Pendley says "abinherto to Opunti Phabo Pendley ojus vidna C Rotia prinz C sora G. G. Rotia Boubloy S.T.P Aritimo Elion jurat do Looter admire hando ro o."
Listed as Elsa Penley, age less than 21, as dau in will of father, Thomas Penley in Fulborne, Cambridge, England in Apr 1683
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Phelip Penly, born 3 mar 1675 and was christened 26 mar 1675 in Saint Vigor, Fulbourn, Cambridge, England. Daughter of Thomas Penley
ngland Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Alice Penly, christened 31 mar 1667 in Saint Vigor, Fulbourn, Cambridge, England. Daughter of Thomas Penley
Marriage of Mary Penley and John Jones on 18 feb 1787 in Rotherhithe, London. witnesses are Sampson Penley and Diana Sims. If this Samson is her father, he is likely son in turn of the other Sampson Penley
From the Abstract of the will of John Pavey, Avening, 1764 (written 18 feb 1758), and proved 8 oct 1764 by Mary Pavey, the relict
"In the name of God, Amen, I, John Pavey, of the Parish of Avening in the County of Gloucester, Clothworker, being of sound mind and memory do make and declare this my last will and testament in the manner following: dated 18 feb 1758"
From the Abstract of the will of John Pavey, Avening, 1764 (written 18 feb 1758), and proved 8 oct 1764 by Mary Pavey, the relict
"All the rest of my housaehold goods, plate, linen, etc, to my wife Mary Pavey and after her decease to be equally divided between my said Grandchildren. I make my wife Mary Pavey sole executrix. Dated this 18th day of February 1758"
From the Abstract of the will of John Pavey, Avening, 1764 (written 18 feb 1758),
"I give and bequeath all my leasehold Messuages, Lands and Tenements which I bought and purchased of my Son-in-Law, John Penly, aituatwe, lying and being in the pariashes of Minchinhampton and avening, unto Thomas Browning of Nailsworth in the parish of Horsley, Malster, and thomas Pavey of Woodchester, Gentleman, their executors and Administrators for all such Term or Terms, Estate and Interest as I have therin in Trust to pay the Issues and profitts unto my daughter Rebecca, wife of said John Penly, separate and exclusive of her husband for and during the term of hwer natural life and from and immediately after her decease then in trust to permit and suffer my Grandchildren, thomas Penly, John Penly, william Penly, Joseph Penly and Mary penly and the survivors of them to hold and enjoy my said Leasehold Messuages."
From the Abstract of the will of John Pavey, Avening, 1764 (written 18 feb 1758),
"I give and bequeath all my leasehold Messuages, Lands and Tenements which I bought and purchased of my Son-in-Law, John Penly, aituatwe, lying and being in the pariashes of Minchinhampton and avening, unto Thomas Browning of Nailsworth in the parish of Horsley, Malster, and thomas Pavey of Woodchester, Gentleman, their executors and Administrators for all such Term or Terms, Estate and Interest as I have therin in Trust to pay the Issues and profitts unto my daughter Rebecca, wife of said John Penly, separate and exclusive of her husband for and during the term of hwer natural life and from and immediately after her decease then in trust to permit and suffer my Grandchildren, thomas Penly, John Penly, william Penly, Joseph Penly and Mary penly and the survivors of them to hold and enjoy my said Leasehold Messuages."
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as William Penly, christened 16 apr 1749 in Horsley, Gloucester, England. Son of John Penly and Rebekah
From the Abstract of the will of John Pavey, Avening, 1764 (written 18 feb 1758), "I give my Cottage or Dwelling house wherein Grace Millard doth now live at world's End, in the parrish of Woodchester, in like manner, and on my wifes decease unto my grandson, William Penly."
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Joseph Penley, christened 13 jul 1757 in Nailsworth, Gloucester, England. No parents identified
From the Abstract of the Will of John Pavey, Avening, 1764 (written 18 feb 1758), "Unto my executors the sum of Thirty pounds for the binding forth apprentice of my said Grandson, Joseph Penly"
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as John Penly, christened 7 sep 1746 in Avening, Gloucester, England. Son of John Penly and Rebecca
From the Abstract of the will of John Pavey, Avening, 1764 (written 18 feb 1758): "I give my Tyning of Arable Land of Five acres in Avening in like manner, and on my wifes decease unto my Grandson John Penly. I give my two acres of wood and woodland whick I lately purchased of John Bailward at winnoshedge in Avening in like manner, and on my wifes decease unto my grandson John Penly"
Nymphsfield, Glocester parrish marriages as John Penly, Junr, born p. Nailsworth
Susanne Dee, sp p. n. , married to John Penly Junr, in Nymphsfield Parriash, Goucester, Eng, on 22 oct 1766
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as John Penley, christened 12 dec 1777 in Nympsfield, Gloucester, England. Son of John Penley and Susanna. Died 16 dec 1777
England Births and Christenings, 1528, 1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as John Penley, christened 4 aug1781 in Nympsfield, Gloucester, England. Son of John Penley and Susanna
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Joseph Penley, christened 4 aug 1781 in Nympsfield, Gloucester, England. Son of John Penley and Susanna
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Edmund Penley, christened 19 dec 1752 in Uley, Gloucester, England. Son of William Penley and Mary
England Marriages, 1538-1973, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Edmundt Pendley, and Mary Pendley, married 28 feb 1775 in Avening, Gloucester, England
Name as Edmund Penley from Avening Parrish register in Goucester, England in 1775
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Mary Penley, christened aug 1753 in Horsley, Gloucester, England. Daughter of John Penley and Rebeka
England Marriages, 1538-1973, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Edmundt Penley, and Mary Penley, married 28 feb 1775 in Avening, Gloucester, England
From Abstract of the Will of John Pavey, Avening, 1764 (writen 18 feb 1758), "Unto my Executors Fourty Pounds for the education and maintenance of my grandaughter, Mary Penly until shee attain the age of one and twenty"
Identified as Mary, as mother, in christening record of Elizabeth Penley
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Elizabeth Penley, christened 12 jan 1777 in Horsley, Gloucester, England. Daughter of Edmund Penley and Mary
England Births and Christenings, 1528-1975, from pilot.familysearch.org, as Mary Penley, christened 21 sep 1783 in Avening, Gloucester, England. Daughter of Edmund Penley and Mary
Known as Thomas.
No birth registration yet found.
Birth date given on his death cert 10th Sept 1910.
Searched under surnames Brind & Walters 5 years either side of 1910.
All four of his supposed siblings are registered; father William Thomas Brind & mother Annie Helen Brind nee Walters.
He stated his father as William Thomas Brind (deceased) on both marriage certs.
Annie Helen Brind is a witness at his first marriage to Kathleen Harris.
Jan's mum Alice is adamant that his mother's first name was " Mabel ! "
Annie Helen did have a sister Mabel
Was the mother of George Thomas, " Mabel ? "
Was this Mabel the sister of Annie Helen?
I have not located a death for Mabel Walters or a marriage.
I will check the electoral registers for the time period c 1920's-1960's
To see if a Mabel was living at 19 Mill Street Colnbrook, and or surrounding area.
Marriage and death for Mabel now found! So I think it is not worthwhile checking the said electoral registers.
I have concluded that Mabel the sister of Annie was not the mother of Thomas!
Have sent for the birth cert for a Edwin C Brind reg in Sept Qtr 1910, Wantage, for the purpose of illimination!